dbevis
March 3rd, 2004, 07:22 PM
Very cool. Gets the Vertigo award from me. That has to be the tallest spiral staircase I've ever seen. They don't design em like that much over here - probably to minimize the possibility of jumpers.
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KbK
04-10 06:59 PM
Yes. the provision is already there. You can covert your RIR or non-RIR cases in BPC to PERM without losing priority date, as long as the case is identical
Dear friends
Can anyone please give details of this provision...like under which section it is allowed or which website this information is available etc?
Thanks
Dear friends
Can anyone please give details of this provision...like under which section it is allowed or which website this information is available etc?
Thanks
sekharan
10-14 07:23 PM
Very nice. It looks like we can get married soon!
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slowwin
05-12 10:05 AM
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Jaime
02-03 04:56 PM
Didn't you already get your GC few months back? Anyways, I will try to answer your questions with the understanding that you want to genuinely find out answers to these questions.
1- Approximate PERM processing times (from filing time) for EB2
The time it takes to file your paper work depends on the lawyer and company.
The time it takes for approval varies too between Atlanta and Chicago. Last I heard, it was around 6 months.
2- Approximate I-485 and I-140 processing times from filing date for EB2
For I-140 see this link - https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp
For I-485 see current visa bulletin - http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html
3- Approximate length of the entire process (from filing PERM to getting I-485 approved) for EB2
There is no set time from stat to finish. It depends on many variables, employer, lawyer, country of origin, nut jobs at CIS etc.
If you are lucky, and not from China, India, Mexico & Philippines, in EB2 it could take around 3- 4 years.
If you are unlucky, or if you are from China, India, Mexico & Philippines, in EB2 it could take anywhere between 5-10 years.
So the answer is, it depends.
4- Are I-140 and I-485 still being filed concurrently?
Yes, if your priority dates for filing I-485 are current as per the current visa bulletin, which is very unlikely. Although, I-140 premium process has not yet re-started.
Hope this helps!
Thanks! And no, I have not gotten my green card, not even close!!
However, let's assume that PERM does take 6 to 12 months (from filing date) and then, the I-140/I-485 stage take another year...that would be 2 years, right? Why do you say 5 to 10?
1- Approximate PERM processing times (from filing time) for EB2
The time it takes to file your paper work depends on the lawyer and company.
The time it takes for approval varies too between Atlanta and Chicago. Last I heard, it was around 6 months.
2- Approximate I-485 and I-140 processing times from filing date for EB2
For I-140 see this link - https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp
For I-485 see current visa bulletin - http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html
3- Approximate length of the entire process (from filing PERM to getting I-485 approved) for EB2
There is no set time from stat to finish. It depends on many variables, employer, lawyer, country of origin, nut jobs at CIS etc.
If you are lucky, and not from China, India, Mexico & Philippines, in EB2 it could take around 3- 4 years.
If you are unlucky, or if you are from China, India, Mexico & Philippines, in EB2 it could take anywhere between 5-10 years.
So the answer is, it depends.
4- Are I-140 and I-485 still being filed concurrently?
Yes, if your priority dates for filing I-485 are current as per the current visa bulletin, which is very unlikely. Although, I-140 premium process has not yet re-started.
Hope this helps!
Thanks! And no, I have not gotten my green card, not even close!!
However, let's assume that PERM does take 6 to 12 months (from filing date) and then, the I-140/I-485 stage take another year...that would be 2 years, right? Why do you say 5 to 10?
willigetagc
08-18 11:22 PM
I did B.E in Computer Science Engg, 4 yrs Course.
I have no idea why USCIS gave that reason. Actually, my company's attorney told that "USCIS denied H1B, because i don't have Computers background and am working as a Programmer Analyst".
That's all i know at this moment. I don't know whom to trust at this point.
There should have been an evaluation of your degree by some "expert" here certifying that your degree is equivalent to a 4-year degree in CS here. I remember my first H1 petition had such an attachment.
Check with your lawyers quickly. Also, do whatever you can to protect your status. If you get some illegal status on your records now, it will be a nightmare when you apply for a GC. Then they will check all your entry/exit dates.
I have no idea why USCIS gave that reason. Actually, my company's attorney told that "USCIS denied H1B, because i don't have Computers background and am working as a Programmer Analyst".
That's all i know at this moment. I don't know whom to trust at this point.
There should have been an evaluation of your degree by some "expert" here certifying that your degree is equivalent to a 4-year degree in CS here. I remember my first H1 petition had such an attachment.
Check with your lawyers quickly. Also, do whatever you can to protect your status. If you get some illegal status on your records now, it will be a nightmare when you apply for a GC. Then they will check all your entry/exit dates.
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08-03 09:43 PM
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amoldc
10-30 04:20 PM
Me & my wife both got our reciept dates one month back, but not for my daughter .Which number should I call to check on the status of my daughter's application ?
Please call
1-800-375-5283 options 1-2-2-6-2-2-1.
Dial the extensions in sequence with a gap of 2 seconds...
Good Luck !!
Please call
1-800-375-5283 options 1-2-2-6-2-2-1.
Dial the extensions in sequence with a gap of 2 seconds...
Good Luck !!
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tdasara
08-21 04:08 PM
Also does anyone have any information on revenue thru 'Google Adsense' when on H1b?
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10-31 09:38 PM
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eb_retrogession
01-09 09:56 AM
The past couple days, I've had this very strange experience. Several of the affected people GREATLY appreciate the efforts being done by ImmigrationVoice and strongly support us (by words). This is all good encouragement. But for monetary contribution, even though the promise is made, they want to take some time to think about it.
Now, Think about what?? If this was some kind of an ad campaign or a puppet show, I did understand. The bottomline is either we get support from affected folks and stand a chance by involving lobbyist, media etc with full force, OR we just keep busting our butts and no money comes up, and we will be where we are 2 years from now.
There are some more folks that contributed SOME money and said they are willing to contribute again later. Fair enough. Only issue is we are running against the clock. It would be a pity if we get all the support in the world a little too late.
My guesstimate is that there are about 350K to 400K people affected by retrogression. As of yesterday, around 50 people have come forward with monetary contribution for the cause. Even though we have done progress by collecting about $8,500, this isn't cutting it. I am hard pressed to understand why affected people prefer to just wait and pray for the best, rather than taking the bull by the horn and try your best.
In our presentations to the lawmakers, we say, EB workers add so much value to the economy and have so much to contribute to this country. How about contributing something for ourselves for once? then maybe you'll have a chance to do the aforementioned contributions!!
I hope people don't regret not helping when the window was atleast slightly open, after it has been shut on their faces. Come May/June, election activities take precedence, don't expect anything to happen second half of this year.
I hope EVERYONE on here understands the importance and significance of acting RIGHT NOW.
I, for one, can sleep well at night, thinking that I did all I can.
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Now, Think about what?? If this was some kind of an ad campaign or a puppet show, I did understand. The bottomline is either we get support from affected folks and stand a chance by involving lobbyist, media etc with full force, OR we just keep busting our butts and no money comes up, and we will be where we are 2 years from now.
There are some more folks that contributed SOME money and said they are willing to contribute again later. Fair enough. Only issue is we are running against the clock. It would be a pity if we get all the support in the world a little too late.
My guesstimate is that there are about 350K to 400K people affected by retrogression. As of yesterday, around 50 people have come forward with monetary contribution for the cause. Even though we have done progress by collecting about $8,500, this isn't cutting it. I am hard pressed to understand why affected people prefer to just wait and pray for the best, rather than taking the bull by the horn and try your best.
In our presentations to the lawmakers, we say, EB workers add so much value to the economy and have so much to contribute to this country. How about contributing something for ourselves for once? then maybe you'll have a chance to do the aforementioned contributions!!
I hope people don't regret not helping when the window was atleast slightly open, after it has been shut on their faces. Come May/June, election activities take precedence, don't expect anything to happen second half of this year.
I hope EVERYONE on here understands the importance and significance of acting RIGHT NOW.
I, for one, can sleep well at night, thinking that I did all I can.
contribute at www.immigrationVoice.org
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nemadeni
09-23 07:05 PM
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Agsah2P-Kr24dFM1dk9zOUVaVzR6RTFHMzlMSHpLLUE&hl=en
http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/New%20Structure/2nd%20Level%20%28Left%20Nav%20Parents%29/Green%20Card%20-%202nd%20Level/Pending%20Form%20I-485%20Reports.pdf
Information on how to read the report
Questions & Answers: Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Inventory
Q: Why is the wait so long for my employment-based green card?
A: A visa must be available before a person can obtain an employment-based green card. Because more people want a green card than there are visas available, not everyone who wants a green card can get one immediately. Therefore, some people have to wait in line until a visa is available. The U.S. Department of State (DOS) gives out 140,000 employment-based visas each year. About 85% of those visas go to people seeking a green card in the United States, while about 15% go to people seeking to immigrate from abroad. Currently, about 234,000 people have employment-based adjustment of status (green card) applications pending in the United States and are waiting to get a visa. How long you wait for a visa depends on the supply and demand for your particular preference category, your priority date, and the country your visa will be charged to, usually your country of birth.
Q: How can I determine my place in line based on my priority date?
A: Your preference category, priority date, and country of origin determine your place in line for a visa. The earlier your priority date is, the closer you are to the front of the line. To better assist you in knowing your place in line, we are posting a report of our total pending inventory of applications for employment-based green cards (Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status) for those seeking to adjust status in the United States. See the �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report� link to the right. We are also posting five other reports by country of chargeability (China, India, Mexico, Philippines, and All Other Chargeability) (see the links to the right).
The �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� displays the total number of pending adjustment of status applications, per preference classification. The report shows how many pending adjustment of status (green card) applications in each preference classification have priority dates in a given month and year. You can use this chart to determine how many applicants in your preference classification have priority dates in the same month and year as your own. Also, you can determine how many applicants in your preference classification are ahead of you in line for a visa number by adding together the number of cases with an earlier priority date than your own.
The All Other Chargeability report shows how many applicants from countries other than China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines have priority dates in a given month and year. The report is broken down into separate charts for each preference classification. If you are from a country other than China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you can use this chart to determine how many applicants for adjustment of status in the same preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. This chart also lets you know how many applicants in the same preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Because of historically higher demand for visas from China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines, each of those countries has its own separate report. As published in the DOS Visa Bulletin, applicants from those countries will need to have earlier priority dates than like applicants from other countries to get a visa in any given month. If you are from China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you may want to use the report for your particular country. Your country report will show you how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. The report will also let you know how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Q: Which report should I use, the Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report or the country-specific reports?
A: All applicants for an employment-based green card may use the pending Form I-485 report to determine their place in line for a visa. Because certain countries experience higher demand than others, applicants in these �oversubscribed� countries may move forward in line more slowly than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. In other words, in order to obtain a visa, applicants in oversubscribed countries may need to have earlier priority dates than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. Applicants in oversubscribed countries may therefore want to also refer to the report for their specific country of chargeability to determine where they stand in line with other applicants from that country.
Q: What information do I need to have before using the pending Form I-485 inventory reports?
A: You need to know your priority date and your preference category to use the pending Form I-485 inventory reports. For more information on priority dates and preference categories, see the �Visa Availability & Priority Dates� and �Green Card Eligibility� links to the right.
Q: How do I read the pending I-485 inventory reports?
A: First, click on the link to the report you want to view. Once you click on the link, the report will appear and you will see a series of charts, one for each preference category. You will see that each chart has different numbers for each month and year. These numbers show how many green card applicants have priority dates in that month and year. To figure out how many applicants have earlier priority dates, add all the numbers from all the cells that correspond to earlier months.
Q: Can you tell me when I will get a visa?
A: Unfortunately, we cannot determine how long it will take for you to get a visa. However, we hope that by showing applicants with a pending Form I-485 where they stand in line to get a visa, you will get a better sense of how long it may take. We intend to update the data in these reports quarterly. By comparing newer versions of the reports with older ones, you may see that the number of applicants ahead of you has gotten smaller, and you may be able to tell how much shorter the line has become. We hope this will give you an even better sense of how long it may take for you to get a visa.
Q: Can you provide me an example of how to use the pending Form I-485 inventory charts?
A: Assume your priority date is in January 2007, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from China. Using the Sample �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� below you will see on the third preference chart that there are 2,618 applicants with a priority date in the same month and year as your priority date.
If you want to find out how many third-preference green card applicants have an earlier priority date than yours, you will need to add all the numbers starting with the number at the beginning of the table, January 1997, and ending with the number immediately before the month and year of your own priority date, December 2006. You will see that there are 131,341 third-preference applicants who have a priority date earlier than yours.
Q: How do I know how many applicants from my country have an earlier priority date than mine?
A: Assume your priority date is in June 2005, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from India. Using the Sample �I-485 Inventory for Individuals Born in India Report� below, you will see that there are 175 green card applicants from India with a priority date in June 2005.
To find out how many applicants born in India have an earlier priority date than yours, add all the numbers starting at January 1997 and ending at May 2005. You will see that there are 42,796 third-preference applicants from India with a priority date earlier than yours.
http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/New%20Structure/2nd%20Level%20%28Left%20Nav%20Parents%29/Green%20Card%20-%202nd%20Level/Pending%20Form%20I-485%20Reports.pdf
Information on how to read the report
Questions & Answers: Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Inventory
Q: Why is the wait so long for my employment-based green card?
A: A visa must be available before a person can obtain an employment-based green card. Because more people want a green card than there are visas available, not everyone who wants a green card can get one immediately. Therefore, some people have to wait in line until a visa is available. The U.S. Department of State (DOS) gives out 140,000 employment-based visas each year. About 85% of those visas go to people seeking a green card in the United States, while about 15% go to people seeking to immigrate from abroad. Currently, about 234,000 people have employment-based adjustment of status (green card) applications pending in the United States and are waiting to get a visa. How long you wait for a visa depends on the supply and demand for your particular preference category, your priority date, and the country your visa will be charged to, usually your country of birth.
Q: How can I determine my place in line based on my priority date?
A: Your preference category, priority date, and country of origin determine your place in line for a visa. The earlier your priority date is, the closer you are to the front of the line. To better assist you in knowing your place in line, we are posting a report of our total pending inventory of applications for employment-based green cards (Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status) for those seeking to adjust status in the United States. See the �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report� link to the right. We are also posting five other reports by country of chargeability (China, India, Mexico, Philippines, and All Other Chargeability) (see the links to the right).
The �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� displays the total number of pending adjustment of status applications, per preference classification. The report shows how many pending adjustment of status (green card) applications in each preference classification have priority dates in a given month and year. You can use this chart to determine how many applicants in your preference classification have priority dates in the same month and year as your own. Also, you can determine how many applicants in your preference classification are ahead of you in line for a visa number by adding together the number of cases with an earlier priority date than your own.
The All Other Chargeability report shows how many applicants from countries other than China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines have priority dates in a given month and year. The report is broken down into separate charts for each preference classification. If you are from a country other than China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you can use this chart to determine how many applicants for adjustment of status in the same preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. This chart also lets you know how many applicants in the same preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Because of historically higher demand for visas from China, India, Mexico, and the Philippines, each of those countries has its own separate report. As published in the DOS Visa Bulletin, applicants from those countries will need to have earlier priority dates than like applicants from other countries to get a visa in any given month. If you are from China, India, Mexico, or the Philippines, you may want to use the report for your particular country. Your country report will show you how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have a priority date in the same month and year as your own. The report will also let you know how many applicants from the same country and preference classification have earlier priority dates.
Q: Which report should I use, the Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report or the country-specific reports?
A: All applicants for an employment-based green card may use the pending Form I-485 report to determine their place in line for a visa. Because certain countries experience higher demand than others, applicants in these �oversubscribed� countries may move forward in line more slowly than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. In other words, in order to obtain a visa, applicants in oversubscribed countries may need to have earlier priority dates than applicants in countries experiencing less demand. Applicants in oversubscribed countries may therefore want to also refer to the report for their specific country of chargeability to determine where they stand in line with other applicants from that country.
Q: What information do I need to have before using the pending Form I-485 inventory reports?
A: You need to know your priority date and your preference category to use the pending Form I-485 inventory reports. For more information on priority dates and preference categories, see the �Visa Availability & Priority Dates� and �Green Card Eligibility� links to the right.
Q: How do I read the pending I-485 inventory reports?
A: First, click on the link to the report you want to view. Once you click on the link, the report will appear and you will see a series of charts, one for each preference category. You will see that each chart has different numbers for each month and year. These numbers show how many green card applicants have priority dates in that month and year. To figure out how many applicants have earlier priority dates, add all the numbers from all the cells that correspond to earlier months.
Q: Can you tell me when I will get a visa?
A: Unfortunately, we cannot determine how long it will take for you to get a visa. However, we hope that by showing applicants with a pending Form I-485 where they stand in line to get a visa, you will get a better sense of how long it may take. We intend to update the data in these reports quarterly. By comparing newer versions of the reports with older ones, you may see that the number of applicants ahead of you has gotten smaller, and you may be able to tell how much shorter the line has become. We hope this will give you an even better sense of how long it may take for you to get a visa.
Q: Can you provide me an example of how to use the pending Form I-485 inventory charts?
A: Assume your priority date is in January 2007, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from China. Using the Sample �Pending Employment-Based Form I-485 Report,� below you will see on the third preference chart that there are 2,618 applicants with a priority date in the same month and year as your priority date.
If you want to find out how many third-preference green card applicants have an earlier priority date than yours, you will need to add all the numbers starting with the number at the beginning of the table, January 1997, and ending with the number immediately before the month and year of your own priority date, December 2006. You will see that there are 131,341 third-preference applicants who have a priority date earlier than yours.
Q: How do I know how many applicants from my country have an earlier priority date than mine?
A: Assume your priority date is in June 2005, your petition was approved for third preference, and you are from India. Using the Sample �I-485 Inventory for Individuals Born in India Report� below, you will see that there are 175 green card applicants from India with a priority date in June 2005.
To find out how many applicants born in India have an earlier priority date than yours, add all the numbers starting at January 1997 and ending at May 2005. You will see that there are 42,796 third-preference applicants from India with a priority date earlier than yours.
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sintax321
10-02 03:42 PM
Thanks for those blobs. I'll play around with them but I defenatly won't claim that I made them. I will always show credit where credit is do. Thats why on my site I have a Thank you section. I wouldn't be as fare along as I'm without the people on this forum so I never have a problem giving some credit. You guys are all great:) =) :P
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SL%%
03-02 08:10 PM
Thanks SL & Lost in GC process,
Sorry for not being clear in C & D. I am in US. The question I meant to ask is about the the time that I am not physically present in US i.e. If I went for vacction in India for a month, can that one month be included in my H1B1 extension since I was not physically present in US. In other words I would file for 1.1 year extension as opposed to 1 year
One the same topic, a friend of mine got a three year extension post 6 years of H1B. When asked, his lawyer informed, if you have an approved I140 then you are elegible for 3 years extension as opposed to 1 year. Is this true. Can some refer to the right CFR's
Thanks
Senthil
For the first one, I don't think that is applicable. As to what I know it doesn't matter whether you left for 1 day, 2 mos or whatever, your expiration still stands and cannot be change. No rollover or so hence Sep. 07, 2009 still stands for you.
For the second one, seems like desi3933 answered your question.
Sorry for not being clear in C & D. I am in US. The question I meant to ask is about the the time that I am not physically present in US i.e. If I went for vacction in India for a month, can that one month be included in my H1B1 extension since I was not physically present in US. In other words I would file for 1.1 year extension as opposed to 1 year
One the same topic, a friend of mine got a three year extension post 6 years of H1B. When asked, his lawyer informed, if you have an approved I140 then you are elegible for 3 years extension as opposed to 1 year. Is this true. Can some refer to the right CFR's
Thanks
Senthil
For the first one, I don't think that is applicable. As to what I know it doesn't matter whether you left for 1 day, 2 mos or whatever, your expiration still stands and cannot be change. No rollover or so hence Sep. 07, 2009 still stands for you.
For the second one, seems like desi3933 answered your question.
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07-17 08:06 PM
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LostInGCProcess
10-16 05:13 PM
One of my friends got B1 Visa(business visa, it�s valid for 10 years) through a company AAA in January 2008, still he is working for the same company in India, till now he didn't use his B1.
He applied H1-B through a company BBB, recently he received all his H1-B documents, his H1-B company suggested him to come to U.S on B1 and they want to file an amendment to change his status to H1 after coming to US.
My friend want to resign the company in this month and he want to go for training after resigning his job, it will take 2 months for completing the training.
He is planning to come to U.S in February 2009 on B1.
Could any one please help us with your valuable suggestions for the following questions?
Is it possible to come to U.S on B1 even after resigning the job?
Is there any possibility that the company revoke his B1?
What are the documents required to come to U.S on B1?
Thanks in Advance
Do the right thing. Don't try to find a loophole.
He applied H1-B through a company BBB, recently he received all his H1-B documents, his H1-B company suggested him to come to U.S on B1 and they want to file an amendment to change his status to H1 after coming to US.
My friend want to resign the company in this month and he want to go for training after resigning his job, it will take 2 months for completing the training.
He is planning to come to U.S in February 2009 on B1.
Could any one please help us with your valuable suggestions for the following questions?
Is it possible to come to U.S on B1 even after resigning the job?
Is there any possibility that the company revoke his B1?
What are the documents required to come to U.S on B1?
Thanks in Advance
Do the right thing. Don't try to find a loophole.
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SreeRaj1
07-11 02:47 PM
Hi,
Based on August Visa Bulletin, PD is reached but my I-140 is not approved. Plese let me know what would happen in my case?
Case details:
EB2 India, PD: Jan'2006 , I-140 filed in Jan'2008
Thanks,
Based on August Visa Bulletin, PD is reached but my I-140 is not approved. Plese let me know what would happen in my case?
Case details:
EB2 India, PD: Jan'2006 , I-140 filed in Jan'2008
Thanks,
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danila
07-27 10:04 AM
I do not have a memo or web link, however, when I went for my fingerprinting appointment I asked about the interim EAD of the processing time dragged for my husband.
I was told that there are no facilities at any local USCIS offices for the production of interim EAD's. If your application goes beyond the 90 day time limit, you have two choices. Go to the local office and ask them to send an email to the service center to ask for them to process quickly or issue interim EAD, or call the 1 800 number directly of the service center and cut out the middle man.
I've heard that too, no more interim EADs. I was just commenting on the text of the post.
I was told that there are no facilities at any local USCIS offices for the production of interim EAD's. If your application goes beyond the 90 day time limit, you have two choices. Go to the local office and ask them to send an email to the service center to ask for them to process quickly or issue interim EAD, or call the 1 800 number directly of the service center and cut out the middle man.
I've heard that too, no more interim EADs. I was just commenting on the text of the post.
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10-22 08:36 PM
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same_old_guy
05-24 02:32 PM
This subject is treated as an elaborate chapter titled "The quiet crisis" in Friedman's book "The world is flat". A very good read. Here is an extremely well written article on education crisis staring at the US. It also touches on the broken immigration system.
Feel free to discuss but kindly refrain from making extreme and judgmental statements.
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Credits: Thomas L. Friedman (NY Times). All rights reserved. Article has been reproduced in its entirety.
The quiet crisis in US education
By Thomas L. Friedman
First I had to laugh. Then I had to cry. I took part in commencement this year at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, one of America�s great science and engineering schools, so I had a front-row seat as the first grads to receive their diplomas came on stage, all of them PhD students. One by one the announcer read their names and each was handed their doctorate � in biotechnology, computing, physics and engineering � by the school�s president, Shirley Ann Jackson.
The reason I had to laugh was because it seemed like every one of the newly minted PhDs at Rensselaer was foreign born. For a moment, as the foreign names kept coming � "Hong Lu, Xu Xie, Tao Yuan, Fu Tang" � I thought that the entire class of doctoral students in physics were going to be Chinese, until "Paul Shane Morrow" saved the day. It was such a caricature of what Ms Jackson herself calls "the quiet crisis" in high-end science education in this country that you could only laugh.
Don�t get me wrong. I�m proud that our country continues to build universities and a culture of learning that attract the world�s best minds. My complaint � why I also wanted to cry � was that there wasn�t someone from the Immigration and Naturalization Service standing next to Ms Jackson stapling green cards to the diplomas of each of these foreign-born PhDs. I want them all to stay, become Americans and do their research and innovation here.
If we can�t educate enough of our own kids to compete at this level, we�d better make sure we can import someone else�s, otherwise we will not maintain our standard of living. It is pure idiocy that Congress will not open our borders � as wide as possible � to attract and keep the world�s first-round intellectual draft choices in an age when everyone increasingly has the same innovation tools and the key differentiator is human talent. I�m serious. I think any foreign student who gets a PhD in our country � in any subject � should be offered citizenship. I want them. The idea that we actually make it difficult for them to stay is crazy.
Compete America, a coalition of technology companies, is pleading with Congress to boost both the number of H-1B visas available to companies that want to bring in skilled foreign workers and the number of employment-based green cards given to high-tech foreign workers who want to stay here. Give them all they want! Not only do our companies need them now, because we�re not training enough engineers, but they will, over time, start many more companies and create many more good jobs than they would possibly displace. Silicon Valley is living proof of that � and where innovation happens, matters. It�s still where the best jobs will be located.
Folks, we can�t keep being stupid about these things. You can�t have a world where foreign-born students dominate your science graduate schools, research labs, journal publications and can now more easily than ever go back to their home countries to start companies � without it eventually impacting our standard of living � especially when we�re also slipping behind in high-speed Internet penetration per capita. America has fallen from fourth in the world in 2001 to 15th today.
My hat is off to Andrew Rasiej and Micah Sifry, co-founders of the Personal Democracy Forum. They are trying to make this an issue in the presidential campaign by creating a movement to demand that candidates focus on our digital deficits and divides. (See: www.techpresident.com.) Mr Rasiej, who unsuccessfully ran for public advocate of New York City in 2005 on a platform calling for low-cost wireless access everywhere, notes that "only half of America has broadband access to the Internet." We need to go from "No Child Left Behind," he says, to "Every Child Connected."
Here�s the sad truth: 9/11, and the failing Iraq war, have sucked up almost all the oxygen in this country � oxygen needed to discuss seriously education, healthcare, climate change and competitiveness, notes Garrett Graff, an editor at Washingtonian Magazine and author of the upcoming book The First Campaign, which deals with this theme. So right now, it�s mostly governors talking about these issues, noted Mr Graff, but there is only so much they can do without Washington being focused and leading. Which is why we�ve got to bring our occupation of Iraq to an end in the quickest, least bad way possible � otherwise we are going to lose Iraq and America. It�s coming down to that choice.
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The quiet crisis in US education
By Thomas L. Friedman
First I had to laugh. Then I had to cry. I took part in commencement this year at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, one of America�s great science and engineering schools, so I had a front-row seat as the first grads to receive their diplomas came on stage, all of them PhD students. One by one the announcer read their names and each was handed their doctorate � in biotechnology, computing, physics and engineering � by the school�s president, Shirley Ann Jackson.
The reason I had to laugh was because it seemed like every one of the newly minted PhDs at Rensselaer was foreign born. For a moment, as the foreign names kept coming � "Hong Lu, Xu Xie, Tao Yuan, Fu Tang" � I thought that the entire class of doctoral students in physics were going to be Chinese, until "Paul Shane Morrow" saved the day. It was such a caricature of what Ms Jackson herself calls "the quiet crisis" in high-end science education in this country that you could only laugh.
Don�t get me wrong. I�m proud that our country continues to build universities and a culture of learning that attract the world�s best minds. My complaint � why I also wanted to cry � was that there wasn�t someone from the Immigration and Naturalization Service standing next to Ms Jackson stapling green cards to the diplomas of each of these foreign-born PhDs. I want them all to stay, become Americans and do their research and innovation here.
If we can�t educate enough of our own kids to compete at this level, we�d better make sure we can import someone else�s, otherwise we will not maintain our standard of living. It is pure idiocy that Congress will not open our borders � as wide as possible � to attract and keep the world�s first-round intellectual draft choices in an age when everyone increasingly has the same innovation tools and the key differentiator is human talent. I�m serious. I think any foreign student who gets a PhD in our country � in any subject � should be offered citizenship. I want them. The idea that we actually make it difficult for them to stay is crazy.
Compete America, a coalition of technology companies, is pleading with Congress to boost both the number of H-1B visas available to companies that want to bring in skilled foreign workers and the number of employment-based green cards given to high-tech foreign workers who want to stay here. Give them all they want! Not only do our companies need them now, because we�re not training enough engineers, but they will, over time, start many more companies and create many more good jobs than they would possibly displace. Silicon Valley is living proof of that � and where innovation happens, matters. It�s still where the best jobs will be located.
Folks, we can�t keep being stupid about these things. You can�t have a world where foreign-born students dominate your science graduate schools, research labs, journal publications and can now more easily than ever go back to their home countries to start companies � without it eventually impacting our standard of living � especially when we�re also slipping behind in high-speed Internet penetration per capita. America has fallen from fourth in the world in 2001 to 15th today.
My hat is off to Andrew Rasiej and Micah Sifry, co-founders of the Personal Democracy Forum. They are trying to make this an issue in the presidential campaign by creating a movement to demand that candidates focus on our digital deficits and divides. (See: www.techpresident.com.) Mr Rasiej, who unsuccessfully ran for public advocate of New York City in 2005 on a platform calling for low-cost wireless access everywhere, notes that "only half of America has broadband access to the Internet." We need to go from "No Child Left Behind," he says, to "Every Child Connected."
Here�s the sad truth: 9/11, and the failing Iraq war, have sucked up almost all the oxygen in this country � oxygen needed to discuss seriously education, healthcare, climate change and competitiveness, notes Garrett Graff, an editor at Washingtonian Magazine and author of the upcoming book The First Campaign, which deals with this theme. So right now, it�s mostly governors talking about these issues, noted Mr Graff, but there is only so much they can do without Washington being focused and leading. Which is why we�ve got to bring our occupation of Iraq to an end in the quickest, least bad way possible � otherwise we are going to lose Iraq and America. It�s coming down to that choice.
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namm80
04-07 10:18 PM
H1B extension beyond 6 yrs is possible under 2 circumstances:
a) Labor was filed atleast 365 days before H1B expiry date - which makes you eligible for 1 year extension (NOTE: this does not depend on priority date being current/retrogressed).
b) I-140 has been approved and priority dates are retrogressed. This makes you eligible for 3 yr extension.
So CADude should get 1 yr extension is worst case.
Coming back to your scenario, i don't think you neccessarily need copies of I-140/LC to get H1B xfr. If you have receipt #s of either, you attorney should be able to file H1B xfr case. I know of people who did that in my company. Take a printout of DOL/USCIS case status information if you have receipt # available. If you don't have receipt # as well, then i am afraid, you are out of luck and AC-21 is the only option.
ok gurus here's my situation..
1) Employer A filed my green card and I140 is approved and its been more than 180 days since 485 is filed.. no issue here... recently got my 3-year H1 extension from employer A till 2011. this extension is for 7th, 8th and 9th year... so have already crossed 6 year limit.
2) got an offer and accepted the offer from employer B and employer A does not provide any info regaring labor or I-140...
3) Since H1 extension is based on my green card application, to do a transfer or renewal, copies of I140 and labor is required (according to company B's lawyer)
4) So in this case i'm forced to use EAD and company B's lawyer are evaluating if old and new job description are same or similar...
so now my question is, is it true that transfer/renew of H1 after 6 years without the copy of I140 or labor from employer other than the one filed for your green card, not allowed? is there anything that can be done in this case?
thanks guys..
a) Labor was filed atleast 365 days before H1B expiry date - which makes you eligible for 1 year extension (NOTE: this does not depend on priority date being current/retrogressed).
b) I-140 has been approved and priority dates are retrogressed. This makes you eligible for 3 yr extension.
So CADude should get 1 yr extension is worst case.
Coming back to your scenario, i don't think you neccessarily need copies of I-140/LC to get H1B xfr. If you have receipt #s of either, you attorney should be able to file H1B xfr case. I know of people who did that in my company. Take a printout of DOL/USCIS case status information if you have receipt # available. If you don't have receipt # as well, then i am afraid, you are out of luck and AC-21 is the only option.
ok gurus here's my situation..
1) Employer A filed my green card and I140 is approved and its been more than 180 days since 485 is filed.. no issue here... recently got my 3-year H1 extension from employer A till 2011. this extension is for 7th, 8th and 9th year... so have already crossed 6 year limit.
2) got an offer and accepted the offer from employer B and employer A does not provide any info regaring labor or I-140...
3) Since H1 extension is based on my green card application, to do a transfer or renewal, copies of I140 and labor is required (according to company B's lawyer)
4) So in this case i'm forced to use EAD and company B's lawyer are evaluating if old and new job description are same or similar...
so now my question is, is it true that transfer/renew of H1 after 6 years without the copy of I140 or labor from employer other than the one filed for your green card, not allowed? is there anything that can be done in this case?
thanks guys..
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